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An animist manifesto
By Graham Harvey
All that exists lives
All that lives is worthy of respect
You don’t have to like what you respect
Not liking someone is no reason for not respecting them
Respecting someone is no reason for not eating them
Reasons are best worked out in relationship – especially if you are looking for reasons to eat someone – or if you are looking for reasons not to be eaten
If you agree that all that exists is alive and worthy of respect, it is best to talk about ‘persons’ or ‘people’ rather than ‘beings’ or ‘spirits’, let alone ‘biomechanisms’, ‘resources’, ‘possessions’, and ‘things’
The world is full of persons (people if you prefer), but few of them are human
The world is full of other-than-human persons
The world is full of other-than-oak persons
The world is full of other-than-hedgehog persons
The world is full of other-than-salmon persons
The world is full of other-than-kingfisher persons
The world is full of other-than-rock persons…
‘Other-than’ has at least three references:
it reminds us that we are persons in relationship with others,
it reminds us that many of our closest kin are human, while the closest kin of oaks are oaks, so we talk most easily with humans while rocks talk most easily with other rocks…
it reminds us to speak first of what we know best (those closest to us)
Make that four references:
it reminds us to celebrate difference as an opportunity to expand our relationships rather than seeing it as a cause of conflict or conquest
All life is relational and we should not collapse our intimate alterities into identities
Others and otherness keep us open to change, open to becoming, never finally fixed in being
Alterities resist entropy and encourage creativity through rationality, sociality (or, as William Blake said, ‘enmity is true friendship’)
Animism is neither monist nor dualist, it is only just beginning when you get beyond counting one, two… At its best it is thoroughly, gloriously, unashamedly, rampantly pluralist
Respect means being cautious and constructive
It is cautiously approaching others — and our own wishes,
It is constructing relationships, constructing opportunities to talk, to relate, to listen, to spend time in the face-to-face presence and company of others
It is taking care of, caring for, caring about, being careful about…
It can be shown by leaving alone and by giving gifts
believers in ‘human rights’, for example, demonstrate their belief in rights not only by supporting legislation to protect individuals from states, companies and majorities, but by not insisting on hogging the whole road or pavement, not insisting on another human getting out of the way on a busy street…
You don’t have to hug every tree to show them respect but you might have to let trees grow where they will—you might have to move your telephone lines or greenhouse
You might have to build that road away from that rock or that tree
Hugging trees that you don’t know may be rude – try introducing yourself first
Just because the world and the cosmos is full of life does not make it a nice and easy place to live. Lots of persons are quite unfriendly to others. Many see us as a good dinner. They might respect us as they eat us. Or they may need education. Like us, they might learn best in relationship with others who show respect even to those they don’t like, and especially to those they like the taste of.
Although evolution has no aim, life is not pointless. The purpose of life is to be good people — and good humans or good rocks or good badgers. What we have to find out is what ‘good’ means where we are, when we are, with whom we are, and so on. It is certainly wrapped up with the word ‘respect’ and all the acts that implies.
Since all that exists lives—and since all that lives is, in some senses, to some degree, conscious, communicative and relational—and since many of the persons with whom we humans share this planet have a far better idea of what’s going on than we do—we can now stop all the silliness about being the pinnacle of creation, the highest achievement of evolution, the self-consciousness of the world or cosmos… We’re just part of the whole living community and we’ve got a lot to learn. Our job isn’t to save the planet, or speak for the animals, or evolve towards higher states. Many other-than-human people are already happily self-aware, thank you very much, and if we paid attention we might learn a few things ourselves. By the way, we’re probably not alone in mistaking ourselves for the most important people in the world: hedgehogs probably think they are (but they’re spiky flea-ridden beasts so why believe them?!).
Um, when I said that ‘all that exists lives’, I’m not sure about plastic bags.
But I am certain that we should not treat objects as mere resources, somehow available or even given to us, or humanity, to use as we will or wish.
The same goes for words like ‘substances’, especially those that exist within plant and fungal persons. There are substances, but they aren’t ours until they are given, gifted to us. And then we’d better find out why we’ve been given whatever gifts we get. And we’d better ask how those gifts might be best used (whether its for pleasure, power, wisdom or whatever). This is especially true if the plant or mushroom person who offers us the gift substance has to lose their life in the process.
Maybe sometimes the mushrooms just want to help us join in the big conversation that’s going on all around us. But not all rocks, fish, plants, fungi, birds, animals or humans want to talk with us:
Sometimes they want to be quiet
Sometimes they want to be rude
Sometimes they have other concerns
Sometimes they don’t understand
Sometimes we don’t speak the language
Sometimes we don’t know the appropriate gift
The precise and proper way to show respect depends where you are, who you are, who you are respecting and what they expect. Gifts, like swords and words, have more than one side. Alcohol is a gift in one place, a poison somewhere else. Handshakes are friendly in one place, shows of strength elsewhere. Kissing is respectful to some people, an assault on others. Respectful etiquette is hard work but its reward is fuller participation in a large and exciting community of life.
Sometimes we need shamans to do the talking for us
Sometimes we need shamans to do the talking to us
Animism is just over the bridge that closes the Cartesian gap by knowing how to answer the question, What is your favourite colour? Perhaps it is the bridge. Perhaps there is no gap and animists are people who refuse to collude with the illusion
Animism is often discovered by sitting beneath trees, on hills, in rivers, with hedgehogs, beside fires… Animism is better communicated in trickster tales, soulful songs, powerful poems, rousing rituals, and/or elemental etiquette than in manifestos.
By Graham Harvey
All that exists lives
All that lives is worthy of respect
You don’t have to like what you respect
Not liking someone is no reason for not respecting them
Respecting someone is no reason for not eating them
Reasons are best worked out in relationship – especially if you are looking for reasons to eat someone – or if you are looking for reasons not to be eaten
If you agree that all that exists is alive and worthy of respect, it is best to talk about ‘persons’ or ‘people’ rather than ‘beings’ or ‘spirits’, let alone ‘biomechanisms’, ‘resources’, ‘possessions’, and ‘things’
The world is full of persons (people if you prefer), but few of them are human
The world is full of other-than-human persons
The world is full of other-than-oak persons
The world is full of other-than-hedgehog persons
The world is full of other-than-salmon persons
The world is full of other-than-kingfisher persons
The world is full of other-than-rock persons…
‘Other-than’ has at least three references:
it reminds us that we are persons in relationship with others,
it reminds us that many of our closest kin are human, while the closest kin of oaks are oaks, so we talk most easily with humans while rocks talk most easily with other rocks…
it reminds us to speak first of what we know best (those closest to us)
Make that four references:
it reminds us to celebrate difference as an opportunity to expand our relationships rather than seeing it as a cause of conflict or conquest
All life is relational and we should not collapse our intimate alterities into identities
Others and otherness keep us open to change, open to becoming, never finally fixed in being
Alterities resist entropy and encourage creativity through rationality, sociality (or, as William Blake said, ‘enmity is true friendship’)
Animism is neither monist nor dualist, it is only just beginning when you get beyond counting one, two… At its best it is thoroughly, gloriously, unashamedly, rampantly pluralist
Respect means being cautious and constructive
It is cautiously approaching others — and our own wishes,
It is constructing relationships, constructing opportunities to talk, to relate, to listen, to spend time in the face-to-face presence and company of others
It is taking care of, caring for, caring about, being careful about…
It can be shown by leaving alone and by giving gifts
believers in ‘human rights’, for example, demonstrate their belief in rights not only by supporting legislation to protect individuals from states, companies and majorities, but by not insisting on hogging the whole road or pavement, not insisting on another human getting out of the way on a busy street…
You don’t have to hug every tree to show them respect but you might have to let trees grow where they will—you might have to move your telephone lines or greenhouse
You might have to build that road away from that rock or that tree
Hugging trees that you don’t know may be rude – try introducing yourself first
Just because the world and the cosmos is full of life does not make it a nice and easy place to live. Lots of persons are quite unfriendly to others. Many see us as a good dinner. They might respect us as they eat us. Or they may need education. Like us, they might learn best in relationship with others who show respect even to those they don’t like, and especially to those they like the taste of.
Although evolution has no aim, life is not pointless. The purpose of life is to be good people — and good humans or good rocks or good badgers. What we have to find out is what ‘good’ means where we are, when we are, with whom we are, and so on. It is certainly wrapped up with the word ‘respect’ and all the acts that implies.
Since all that exists lives—and since all that lives is, in some senses, to some degree, conscious, communicative and relational—and since many of the persons with whom we humans share this planet have a far better idea of what’s going on than we do—we can now stop all the silliness about being the pinnacle of creation, the highest achievement of evolution, the self-consciousness of the world or cosmos… We’re just part of the whole living community and we’ve got a lot to learn. Our job isn’t to save the planet, or speak for the animals, or evolve towards higher states. Many other-than-human people are already happily self-aware, thank you very much, and if we paid attention we might learn a few things ourselves. By the way, we’re probably not alone in mistaking ourselves for the most important people in the world: hedgehogs probably think they are (but they’re spiky flea-ridden beasts so why believe them?!).
Um, when I said that ‘all that exists lives’, I’m not sure about plastic bags.
But I am certain that we should not treat objects as mere resources, somehow available or even given to us, or humanity, to use as we will or wish.
The same goes for words like ‘substances’, especially those that exist within plant and fungal persons. There are substances, but they aren’t ours until they are given, gifted to us. And then we’d better find out why we’ve been given whatever gifts we get. And we’d better ask how those gifts might be best used (whether its for pleasure, power, wisdom or whatever). This is especially true if the plant or mushroom person who offers us the gift substance has to lose their life in the process.
Maybe sometimes the mushrooms just want to help us join in the big conversation that’s going on all around us. But not all rocks, fish, plants, fungi, birds, animals or humans want to talk with us:
Sometimes they want to be quiet
Sometimes they want to be rude
Sometimes they have other concerns
Sometimes they don’t understand
Sometimes we don’t speak the language
Sometimes we don’t know the appropriate gift
The precise and proper way to show respect depends where you are, who you are, who you are respecting and what they expect. Gifts, like swords and words, have more than one side. Alcohol is a gift in one place, a poison somewhere else. Handshakes are friendly in one place, shows of strength elsewhere. Kissing is respectful to some people, an assault on others. Respectful etiquette is hard work but its reward is fuller participation in a large and exciting community of life.
Sometimes we need shamans to do the talking for us
Sometimes we need shamans to do the talking to us
Animism is just over the bridge that closes the Cartesian gap by knowing how to answer the question, What is your favourite colour? Perhaps it is the bridge. Perhaps there is no gap and animists are people who refuse to collude with the illusion
Animism is often discovered by sitting beneath trees, on hills, in rivers, with hedgehogs, beside fires… Animism is better communicated in trickster tales, soulful songs, powerful poems, rousing rituals, and/or elemental etiquette than in manifestos.
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Re: Animist Manifesto
Thu, September 18, 2008 - 7:13 AMThis is a perfect example of what I am speaking.
This view is a bit too welfarist for my tastes, but a beautiful view from someone who obviously GENUINELY cares for the animals and also a view that all PETA members should take the time to read.
This demonstrates someone who cares and who took the time to post an intelligent and insightful view that she feels members of this tribe would enjoy reading.
a differing opinion perhaps, but definitely in keeping with the spirit of this tribe.
Thank you for posting this Ladybird.
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Re: Animist Manifesto
Thu, September 18, 2008 - 12:33 PMKeep in mind that the manifesto was written by a human who had all his/her basic needs met. -
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Thu, September 25, 2008 - 8:09 PMi don't know about who wrote this, but i'm generally starving and am at times lucky to have a home -
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Re: Animist Manifesto
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 8:27 PMAnd you have a computer?
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Thu, September 25, 2008 - 8:37 PMBut more germane to my original question is:
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Thu, September 25, 2008 - 9:27 PMno i do not have a computer, i go to the library on ocassion, or use a friend's computer. these conversations are probably a waste of time but i do hope to learn things and share things from conversations. Yes, it would be nice to be stable and fed and such, i would do a lot more work to help who i could, but already i spend a lot of my time doing this and cause myself more trouble than most people in an effort to avoid fossil fuels and electricity. I do not have a car, i hitchhike with people who are going someplace anyway, i do not ask for rides from people to go out of their way, i do not have electricity, i have running water because it is piped from a stream. This makes life hard because i still have to deal with the outside world and survive, and walk up a hill to get to a road, but at least i am reducing destruction as much as possible. I have not yet made my own oil press to extract flax and sunflowers which i will grow large amounts of next year, so i buy my cooking oil in bulk and reuse the container. There are things like that which still need to be taken care of. It takes a while when survival still has to happen. And yes sometimes i have a little bit of frivolous time on the computer like this when there is not much happening and my friend's computer is running...i used to be quite entrenched in message boards as it was my only way to communicate with other humans when i was 15 and had lived in the woods all my life and was barely allowed to go see other people. -
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Re: Animist Manifesto
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 9:40 PM
Yeah, impressive in its banal reductionism and diminution of an issue more complicated than the predictable screed can ever convey.
A point-of-view quite obviously puked forth from a position of western privilege.
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Thu, September 25, 2008 - 9:43 PMsorry, my unprivaledged mind cannot comprehend your advanced language, perhaps explain it in simpler terms. -
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Thu, September 25, 2008 - 10:03 PMalthough i can reply that i have spent about 4 years of my life immersed in western modernized life, and am still experienceing culture shock. -
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Re: Animist Manifesto
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 11:35 AMSo Ladybird you spend your time in a library but you refuse to read???
You write 3 page posts but you don't evenread my posts?
wow.
You NEED to read up about the difference betweeen animal RIGHTS and animal welfare.
In a nutshell: welfare is about treating animals well as we use them for our own reasons.
rights is abotu the acceptance that animals are withholders of basic rights and that these RIGHTS can not be ignored because we feel we "want" or "need" to use these animals for our own reasons.
AGAIN this is a PETA tribe and PETA believes in TOTAL ANIMAL LIBERATION and a world in which everyone believes that animals are not ours to use for any purpose.
If you don't agree with this, fine. You don't have to.
If you wish to learn about animal rights, read Peter Singer's Animal Liberation and Tom Regan's Animal rights philosophy.
If you refuse to read about animal rights or even learn about it.
Or if you believe that animal rights is not valid or that PETA is not valid. Fine you can have that opinion, but then LEAVE this tribe. -
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Re: Animist Manifesto
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 12:05 PMNow who is the troll, Antoine?
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Fri, September 26, 2008 - 5:06 PMyes, the library has the computer, the library does not have many interesting books. There are certain books that are good, sometimes i read them. Actually, i spend a little bit of time in the library. I am currently at a friends.
I did in fact have to read your posts to reply to you, but i didn't read too carefully the time you decided to republish a censor, i don't have that much interest to RE read what i had just read.
Thankyou for your distinction of the terminology, but you are again repeating you same little loop, again NO i do not wish to study the philosophies of animal rights. How do you define 'use'? Is the cat using you when you take the time to do extra work to buy food for it (which by the way the marketed cat food is either totally toxic dry food, or canned food, which is also toxic, and is obviously meat, or top quality meat but then again killing animals is still wrong). I call it a symbiotic relationship, but both species involved should be contributing something for them not to be 'useing' eachother. There are many relationships humans have with the other animals which are not symbiotic and are abusive. This is not all of them. We have to eat, so some animals are a part of our diets (not all of us obviously) they have to eat, so the kill the grass. Cats, wolves, and bears among many others naturally eat meat and become very sick without it. Humans have been for much of our evolution, omnivours like bears. Apperantly some have developed an ability to not eat meat, but there are still different kinds of people.
If you cannot handle a civil conversation which challenges even slightly your dogma, and don't like this tribe, then you should perhaps start another tribe and moderate it so you can prevent the 'trolls' from joining!
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Thu, September 25, 2008 - 9:44 PMSnooze away, but I do think a little credence is due. -
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Re: Animist Manifesto
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 9:47 PMit is only a 10 min walk up the hill, i complain because i am annoyed by going to the road, or town :)
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Re: Animist Manifesto
Thu, September 25, 2008 - 9:35 PMAntoine: i am not sure what welfare has to do with this piece
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