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Antoine, why do you keep deleting & reposting your threads when people say anything you don't like to hear? What kind of character statement does that make about you?
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Re: Antoine promotes censorship?
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 12:55 PMAnd you haven't answered any of my questions from before. This makes me think you're the one who is not reading anything. You just react. -
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Re: Antoine promotes censorship?
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 1:24 PMSubversion continues to be the only tool you've got. You speak a lot of compassion, but you don't offer much of it. -
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Re: Antoine promotes censorship?
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:43 PMPost ONE thing that isn't negative and I'll stop removing my threads.
Post ONE thing that is supportive of PETA and of this TRIBE and I will not delete it.
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THIS IS A PETA TRIBE: Animals are not ours to eat
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:46 PMAnimals are not ours to eat: www.goveg.com/vegetarian101.asp
Vegetarian 101
When it comes to vegetarianism, the number one question on most meat-eaters' minds is, "What do you eat?" The answer: Anything we want! There are vegetarian alternatives to almost any animal food, from soy sausages and "Fib Ribs" to Tofurky jerky and mock lobster. Vegetarian-friendly menus are sprouting up everywhere—even Burger King offers veggie burgers—and more and more eateries are focusing exclusively on vegetarian and vegan foods. There are fantastic alternatives to every dairy product you can imagine, including Soy Delicious ice cream, Silk chocolate soy milk, Tofutti cream cheese, and more.
Going vegetarian has never been easier, and we're here to help! From our fantastic recipes and list of favorite products and favorite vegetarian cookbooks to our free vegetarian starter kit and online shopping guide, PETA has all the information you need to adopt a healthy and humane vegetarian diet!
Every year in the U.S., more than 27 billion animals are slaughtered for food. Raising animals on factory farms is cruel and ecologically devastating. Eating animals is bad for our health, leading directly to many diseases and illnesses, including heart attacks, strokes, cancer, diabetes, and obesity. In response to animal welfare, health, and ecological concerns, compassionate people everywhere are adopting a vegetarian diet.
For Animals
Animals on factory farms are treated like meat, milk, and egg machines. Chickens have their sensitive beaks seared off with a hot blade, and male cattle and pigs are castrated without any painkillers. All farmed chickens, turkeys, and pigs spend their brief lives in dark and crowded warehouses, many of them so cramped that they can't even turn around or spread a single wing. They are mired in their own waste, and the stench of ammonia fills the air. Animals raised for food are bred and drugged to grow as large as possible as quickly as possible—many are so heavy that they become crippled under their own weight and die within inches of their water supply.
Animals on factory farms do not see the sun or get a breath of fresh air until they are prodded and crammed onto trucks for a nightmarish ride to the slaughterhouse, often through weather extremes and always without food or water. Many die during transport, and others are too sick or weak to walk off the truck after they reach the slaughterhouse. The animals who survive this hellish ordeal are hung upside-down and their throats are slit, often while they're completely conscious. Many are still alive while they are skinned, hacked into pieces, or scalded in the defeathering tanks. Learn more about the factory-farming industry. By switching to a vegetarian diet, you can save more than 100 animals a year from this misery.
One suggestion: If you plan to make the transition to a vegetarian diet gradually, the most important foods to cut out of your diet first are bird flesh and eggs. While many people think that “red meat” and dairy products should be the first to go, this isn’t the case. By cutting bird flesh from your diet, you’ll save many more animals. Because chickens are so small, the average meat-eater is responsible for the deaths of many more chickens than cows. Plus, chickens and turkeys exploited by the meat and egg industries are the most abused animals commonly used for food.
For Your Health
Some of the leading killers in America today, including heart disease, cancer, obesity, and strokes, are directly linked to meat-based diets. Heart disease is the number one cause of death in America today, and it is caused by the build-up of cholesterol and saturated fat from animal products in our arteries. The only two doctors in human history who have successfully reversed heart disease have included an exclusively vegetarian diet as a part of their programs. The average vegan cholesterol level is 133 (compared to 210 for meat-eaters); there are no documented cases of heart attacks in individuals with cholesterol under 150. Other health problems tied to clogged arteries, like poor circulation and atherosclerotic strokes, can be virtually eliminated with a vegan diet.
www.goveg.com/feat/chewonthis/
Vegans are approximately one-ninth as likely to be obese as meat-eaters and have a cancer rate that is only 40 percent that of meat-eaters. People who consume animal products are also at increased risk for many other illnesses, including strokes, obesity, osteoporosis, arthritis, Alzheimer's, multiple allergies, diabetes, and food poisoning. Learn more about the health benefits of a vegetarian diet.
For the Environment
America's meat addiction is poisoning and depleting our potable water, arable land, and clean air. More than half of the water used in the United States today goes to animal agriculture, and since farmed animals produce 130 times more excrement than the human population, the run-off from their waste is fouling our waterways. Animal excrement emits gases, such as hydrogen sulfide and ammonia, that poison the air around farms, as well as methane and nitrous oxide, which are major contributors to global warming. Forests are being bulldozed to make more room for factory farms and feed crops to feed farmed animals, and this destruction causes soil erosion and contributes to species extinction and habitat loss. Raising animals for food also requires massive amounts of food and raw materials: Farmed animals consume 70 percent of the corn, wheat, and other grains that we grow, and one-third of all the raw materials and fossil fuels used in the U.S. go to raising animals for food. In short, our country's meat addiction is wrecking the earth. Read more about factory farming and the environment. -
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Re: THIS IS A PETA TRIBE: Animals are not ours to wear
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:48 PMAnimals our not ours to wear
Animals Used for Clothing
"The marketing genius of PETA's campaigns helped create a new idea: that you win people over to your cause with humor, playfulness and innovation, and not with sanctimonious self-righteousness."
-Interview magazine
Wool
It may come from a sheep, goat, or Tibetan antelope. It may be called "wool," "mohair," "pashmina," or "cashmere." But no matter what you call it, it means bad news for the animal it came from.
In the wool industry, just weeks after birth, lambs' ears are punched, their tails are chopped off, and the males are castrated, all without anesthetics. To prevent "flystrike" (a maggot infestation caused by wrinkly skin, which was bred into the sheep so that they would have more wool), Australian ranchers perform a barbarous operation called "mulesing," which involves carving huge strips of flesh off the backs of unanesthetized lambs' legs. To learn more about wool, please visit SaveTheSheep.com.
Leather
Leather is not a slaughterhouse byproduct. It's a booming industry, a driving force for the cattle industry, and it accounts for two-thirds of the value of the slaughtered cattle. Even the hides of "veal" calves are made into high-priced calfskin. The economic success of slaughterhouses and factory farms is directly linked to the sale of leather goods. Decreasing demand for both animal foods and leather products will result in fewer cows' being factory-farmed. To learn more about leather, please visit CowsAreCool.com.
Fur
Those who wear fur trim and fur coats have the blood of minks, raccoons, foxes, beavers, and other animals on their hands. Animals on fur farms spend their lives in tiny cages only to be killed by anal or genital electrocution, which causes them to have a heart attack. Some are skinned alive. Animals in the wild may languish for days in traps before they die or are killed. To find out more about fur, please visit FurIsDead.com.
Dress for Success in Animal Advocacy
Fortunately, there's plenty of drop-dead gorgeous clothing that hasn't harmed animals. For a guide to cruelty-free clothing, www.peta.org/actioncenter/clothing.asp -
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Re: THIS IS A PETA TRIBE: Animals are not ours to experiment on
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:53 PMAnimal Testing
www.peta.org/actioncenter/testing.asp
Have you ever wondered how many animals suffer in labs? It's a good question. Because there are so many animals in laboratories and records are not kept for all animals, estimates of the number of animals tortured and killed annually in U.S. laboratories vary widely but are in the millions.
The Animal Welfare Act requires laboratories to report the number of animals used in experiments, but it does not cover mice, rats, and birds (used in some 80 to 95 percent of all experiments). Because these animals are not covered by the act, they remain uncounted, and we can only guess at how many actually suffer and die each year.
Many household products and cosmetics companies still pump their products into animals' stomachs, rub them onto their skin, squirt them into their eyes, or force animals to inhale them as aerosol sprays. Charities such as the March of Dimes use donations from private citizens to fund experiments on animals, and the FDA requires all drugs to be tested on animals. However, animals differ from humans significantly, making animal drug tests unreliable and dangerous. New research methods, such as computer models, cell cultures, and human studies are more accurate, less expensive, and much more humane.
Companies that do not test on animals proudly state it on their labels. Send back items that you have from companies that test on animals, and write a letter to the companies explaining why you won't buy their products anymore. For more information on animal testing and a list of companies that do not test on animals, see PETA's Shopping Guide for Caring Consumers search.caringconsumer.com/ and be sure to share it with your friends! Learn more. www.peta.org/ -
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Re: THIS IS A PETA TRIBE: Animals are not ours to use for entertainment
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:55 PMAnimals Used for Entertainment
www.peta.org/actioncente...tainment.asp
"PETA averts its eyes from nothing, and shrieks at the world to make it see what PETA sees-ready or not."
-The Virginian -Pilot
Animals don't want to ride bicycles, stand on their heads, balance on balls, or jump through rings of fire. Sadly, they have no choice. Trainers use abusive tools, like whips and electric prods, and force them to perform.
Not only are elephants, bears, tigers, and other animals abused by trainers, they suffer from extreme loneliness, boredom, and frustration from being locked in tiny cages or chains month after month, city after city. Instead of being treated like furniture that is loaded and unloaded into trucks and storage areas, these animals should be in their natural habitat, exploring, seeking mates, and raising families.
Animals held captive in circuses, rodeos, zoos, and other entertainment venues need you to speak out for them. Teach your community why, for animals' sake, they should go for a hike or take in a baseball game instead of supporting these unkind businesses.
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Re: THIS IS A PETA TRIBE: Animals are not ours to abuse in ANY way
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:56 PMAnimal Exploitation
www.peta.org/actioncente...oitation.asp
"Dogs were not put on the earth to pose, prance, sit, point, and have their coats shampooed. They were created to chew shoes, bark at cars, have accidents on the rug and get their tummies scratched."
-Roger Ebert
Every year, more than 3 million dogs, cats, birds, rabbits, and other animals are euthanized because they were born into a world that does not have enough homes for them. For every one companion animal who lives indoors with a human family and receives the attention, health care, and emotional support that he or she needs, there are thousands just barely surviving. Millions of domestic animals never know a kind human touch and live hard lives on the street before dying equally hard deaths.
Others suffer at the hands of an unfit guardian who deprives them of veterinary care and other basic necessities: Social birds are left alone in tiny, barren cages for years as decorations; rabbits, guinea pigs, and hamsters are kept in filthy cages and only paraded out as a source of entertainment now and then; cats are left outside and often become victims of cruel people; dogs are left chained outside or kept in waste-strewn pens with only a metal barrel to protect them from the elements.
Every animal deserves a chance to thrive in a responsible and permanent home. Sadly, breeders, pet stores, and people who fail to sterilize their companion animals have created a tremendous overpopulation problem that forces animal shelters to put millions of dogs and cats to death every year.
PETA and other animal protection groups cannot end the animal-overpopulation crisis alone. We need everybody to pitch in! To learn how to help homeless dogs and cats, please visit www.HelpingAnimals.com -
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Re: THIS IS A PETA TRIBE: Internet soup!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:06 PMblog.peta.org/archives/20...net_soup.php
It's a gloomy day here in Norfolk. My coffee mug is empty, my pumpkin–chocolate-chip muffins are all gone, and the "News of the Weird" folder in my in-box is overflowing. You're probably wondering what kind of news could be classified as "weird" by an organization that has proposed that Ben and Jerry's should use human breast milk for its ice cream. blog.peta.org/archives/20..._is_best.php Read on to find out about the weird stuff—and more!
Happy "Hug a Vegetarian" Day! www.peta2.com/feat/hug/index.asp
Sometimes it's just easier to express yourself through song and dance. See Exhibit A: this rap video www.youtube.com/watch , which was recorded by a PETAKids member. I wonder how long it took to find a rhyme for "gestation crates" ….
Bizarre ice-breaker …. It turns out that two-thirds of Americans would rather be stranded on a desert island with their animal companion than their human partner. (Recalling a few of my exes, I wholeheartedly agree.) news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080...8aFGJOek3QF
Boy attacked by raptor. No, not Jurassic Park 4. Thankfully. www.canada.com/vancouvers.../story.html
Tzipi Livni, potentially the next prime minister of Israel, is a vegetarian. Rock on. washingtonbureau.typepad.com/jer...html
Long Island Business News came out to see an activist-led KFC demo last week and created an awesome video blog about it. libizblog.wordpress.com/2008/0...hicken/
A new human study shows that the flavonoids in a small square of dark (not milk!) chocolate each day can protect you from heart disease. Vegans and chocoholics, rejoice! news.yahoo.com/s/livescie...stayhealthy
That chocolate study definitely made me feel better about eating a whopping four of those pumpkin–chocolate-chip muffins—whew! I guess I'll go refill my coffee mug, plow through my in-box, and hurry home to forward that rap video and animal birth control ad to all my MySpace peeps. -
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Re: THIS IS A PETA TRIBE: Whose skin are you in?
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 4:14 PMSign the Pledge: www.peta.org/whoseskin/index.asp
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Re: THIS IS A PETA TRIBE: Whose skin are you in?
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 5:27 PMthis looks like spamming
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Re: Antoine promotes censorship?
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:48 PMYou're not fighting back. You're just fighting.
I haven't posted anything negative. I have asked questions. And my overall assertion:
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Re: Antoine promotes censorship?
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:49 PMAnd you haven't answered this question:
"Why do you keep deleting & reposting your threads when people say anything you don't like to hear? What kind of character statement does that make about you?"
Your love of the organization is overriding your love of the actual cause.
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:50 PMBUT THIS IS A PETA TRIBE.
If PETA is a waste of time and money why are you wasting your time on this tribe?
and If you already have made up your mind that you donlt like PETA and that you believe that "PETA is a waste of time and money" than you go against the description of this tribe which is FOR members of PETA.
you are therefore a TROLL the definition actually of a destructive troll who joins a group to post AGAINST that group.
and only for that reason.
you have posted NOTHING on this tribe in any way that has been positive.
NO vostories for the animals, no ideas ofro animal rights.
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:54 PMYou keep repeating yourself without answering any questions. -
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 2:59 PMYou keep trolling and you have never asked any questions.
you just makie the statement that PETA is a waste of time and money and irrelevant.
and you are ON A PETA TRIBE.
you accuse me of censorship which is rich in this society. I am here in a PETA tribe posting information about PETA and from PETA which you denigrate and I am censoring YOU????
wtf?
you JOINED a tribe and you have nothing better to do than to spend all your time saying that the group that the tribe supports is useless and that its members should not support it.
you have asked NO questions and have made no points.
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:00 PMAt least I am posting PETA information on a PETA tribe.
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:03 PM< You keep trolling and you have never asked any questions. >
Proof that you're not reading a thing. You react out of anger. You talk of compassion, and have none. -
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:09 PMhow do I have no compassion? becasue I am not complacent and weak?
no dude, you know NOTHING about compassion.
becasue I don't want to read your crap, that means I have no compassion.
I won't argue who is more compassionate with you, but why don't you ask that chicken that you had for lunch what he thinks about it ;-)
Plus how "compassionate" is it to join a tribe for the SOLE purpose of telling its member that the group that they support sucks.
not even "it would be better if we did things this way.... " or "here's an idea about animal activism that would be more effective..."
but straight on: PETA is a waste of time and money and is irrelevant... how compassionate is that?
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:05 PM< At least I am posting PETA information on a PETA tribe >
We're all talking about peta, Antoine. It is clear that your love of the organization has overridden your love of the cause. -
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:21 PMNO.
that is exactly my point you are not talking ABOUT peta, you are talking AGAINST peta.
and it is FINE to have differing opinions, but you are posting that PETA as an organization should not exist.
I have already given you MANY anaolgies and you are too fucking stupid to undersatnd but here's another that is perhaps clearer:
(example tribe: middle-aged women who love to ski) :
on the topic of the tribe: ski spots for middle aged women....
on topic of the tribe but perhaps contentious but definitely still cool: water skying may be healthier for midle-aged women's knees.
off-topic of the tribe: don't ski, play basketball instead, skiing is stupid.
WAYYYY off-topic rude and destructive (and what you are doing) : middle aged women are assholes, and all women shoudl be killed after the age of 30...
if you don't get that you are a troll Mickey, you are either
a: the biggest asshole piece of garbage on the planet,
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b: the stupidest person alive.
take your pick.
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:04 PM< I am here in a PETA tribe posting information about PETA and from PETA which you denigrate and I am censoring YOU???? >
You're removing my posts by deleting your threads and reposting the thread seeds. You've done it to others. This is censorship. -
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:11 PMI am not censoring you at all...I am removing MY THREADS you can easily do the same...that is how tribe works...if you don;t like it, just like I recommended that you leave this tribe, you cna leave tribe all together...I guarantee you that not ONE of your 593 friends will mourn your departure. -
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:33 PMYou are removing your threads in an effort to keep subsequent voices from being heard. That is censorship. -
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:56 PMYou are not a voice Mickey...you are a troll.
you have not posted even ONE thing in this ENTIRE tribe that has been positive or helpful for the animal rights movement.
in fact you joined a PETA tribe for the onbly reason of convincing people NOT to support PETA. you are a troll.
and you are eitehr obtuse or stupid if you don't realize it
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 3:58 PMCase in point: I 100% disagree with Ladybird and believe that she is certifiably INSANE, yet I removed none of her posts. In fact when I had to repost my thread I took the time to repost her posts as well...
I only remove my thread when you and badger post...because you are TROLLS -
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Fri, September 26, 2008 - 4:07 PMor ask yourself Mickey...when i post a link to a video about the fashion industry made by PETA to educate people about the cruelty to animals for the fashion industry...how does you repeatedly popsting personal attacks against me " you support PETA just for the fashion?"
in ANY way constitute a view or a valid discussion point?
and how doe sit in ANY WAY help the aniamls for you to make fun of a video made to educate people about the cruelties of the fashion industry?
and how does it help children? How does it help against bullying? how does it help to build homes for the homeless?
;-)
your comments serve no other purpose than to troll...you are a troll....
and at this point it isobvious to me that there is NO WAY that you are as stupid as you cliam, so you 100% know what you are doing...which means that you are a piece of garbage too!
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Re: MICKEY is a TROLL!!!
Sat, September 27, 2008 - 10:29 AM
The whole censorship thing is a moot point really.
I just find it both ironic and delicious that Antoine in his lameness chooses to expend as much energy as and as much time as he does to a marginal thread, on a second rate BBS, that probably has at best 10-15 regular readers at best.
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Re: Badger everyone! douchebag of the year!
Sun, September 28, 2008 - 7:38 AMOnly useless human beings like you Badger who do NOTHING for the world or its inhabitants spend their energies telling those who ARE doing something that what they are doing is useless.
This afternoon I am going to table for animal rights and vegan outreach, and some loser douchebag like you is gonna tell me that what I am doing is not big enough and a waste of my time, but yet his sitting on his fat ass smoking joints is better?
I will meet some idiot on facebook who will take the time to post that all this cyberactivism and emails and letter campaigns are a waste of time and accomplish nothing, but his wacking off after drinking 6 beer really does do something to help the world???
This is a PETA tribe if you feel it is a waste of time then kindly unsuscribe yourself from it. and the same goes triple to you Mickey!
What is nice and ironic is that you and your minion Mickey join this tribe to post turtle soup recipes and basically bully animal rights activists, and when I fight back, and try to defend my tribe, I am accused of spamming (how can I be spamming by posting PETA information on a PETA tribe Ladybird???) censorship (for trying to keep this tribe positive and a place to give information about peta and helping animals), and now the ultimate irony, I am wasting my time!!!...but YOU douchefucks are not? when you take the time to come here JUST to post things against the tribe and to attack and denigrate its members??!!!
it's like someone breaking into someone's house accusing the resident of overreacting for kicking the intruder out...wow! You're a sociopath badger! -
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Re: Badger everyone! douchebag of the year!
Sun, September 28, 2008 - 11:25 AM
>Re: Badger everyone! douchebag of the year!
Ouchie! The cut is deep, the wound raw and bleeding copiously.
Wounded to the quick by the merciless barbs of a myopic, sophomoric ass monkey.
If I had the time - or the inclination - I'd try writing a quatrain describing how violated I feel having been called a douchebag from someone who represents the archetype of said 'bagness.'
Asstoine, you're actually starting to become a genuine source of entertainment with your fundamental jihadist, mindset.
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Re: Badger everyone! douchebag of the year!
Tue, September 30, 2008 - 9:02 AMand that is exactly my point Badger... I am fighting back and you are entertained.
You and Mickey are the aggressors here, and I am the one who is a fundamentalist?
so the home owner is a fundamentalist for not wanting the house invaders to rape his wife and kill his children? wow. world upside down.
Of course unethical losers like you use "free speech" to promote hate and bullying and bring up your "rights" to step into a group that you 100% disagree with for the sole purpose of insulting that group.
that's just PERFECT! and the reason why you deserve the prize of douchebag of the year...no, don't be shy Badger, you know you deserve it ;-)
THIS IS A PETA TRIBE.
Mickey comes here to say that PETA is a bad org and that no one should support PETA.
You come here to post turtle soup recipe and attack me personally.
this is not the "I hate Antoine Tribe" (feel free to start that tribe if you wish)
it is the Tribe for MEMBERS of the People for The Ethical Treatment of Animals.
If you don't like PETA then again : WHY ARE YOU HERE?
and if you are here to entertain yourself by attacking this tribe and what it stands for and laughing at me for trying to defend the tribe then once again you are a TROLL.
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Re: Badger everyone! douchebag of the year!
Tue, September 30, 2008 - 3:30 PMBlah Blah Blah. Did you guys notice that the other few hundred members of this tribe are pretty uninterested in this back and forth BS? Perhaphs that is because they, like myself are here to find ways to help animals, not argue points with people who will never see eye to eye.
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Re: Badger everyone! douchebag of the year!
Wed, October 1, 2008 - 7:05 AMOf course you are right Erika, but that is exactly what I am TRYING to do. If you don't agree with how I am doing it, fine...but instead of just bitching from the side lines, if you have a better way, just do it.
I don't see you doing anything to promote animal rights on this tribe.
In this very thread, I have tried to keep the topic about PETA and PETA actions...I have posted a huge amount of stuff about PETA and PETA actions...and I have also created lots of threads...but I am alone...
If you and the other members of this tribe actually POSTED threads ABOUT animal rights and PETA and actions for the animals, I would not be alone on this. But as it is the only ones posting on this tribe are Badger and Mickey. Badger is an asshole and Mickey is specifically here to tell people NOT to support PETA.
How does that help the animals?
And how does your (and all the other members of this tribe)'s silence help the animals?
I tried to ignore their bullshit and to drown it out by posting lots of threads ON TOPIC about PETA, but again, I am alone...if you and all the other members of this tribe were actually active here, and posted threads and responded, these guys would go away....because right now, since it is only me and two against one, they stick around...that's how bullies are...and since people like you spend your energy remaining "neutral" and not getting involved, well it makes it easier for them to bully me and this tribe around.
Bullies and trolls are cowards, if only four or five members started posting then they would leave.
Inaction is cowardice. Or, if someone breaks into your house and attacks your roommate, are you gonna yell at your roommate for defending herself? or are you gonna try to HELP HER????
And by the way, I am bringing 5 feral cats to be spayed and neutered tomorrow, and we rescued 25 kittens from a hoarder last week in the attempts to control a colony near where I live and brought the kittens to the humane society to be adopted...and I was tabling for a local animal rights group on Sunday, I am doing a meet your meat demo this week, as well as trying to do as much cyber-activism for the animals (with the help of the PETA website and Facebook)...and helping in the making of a movie about the feral cat overpopulation
As well as working on a huge translation project (to pay the bills) and so I can't be on tribe often enough to keep up with Badger and Mickey and their trolling...especially if I am doing it alone, because people like you aren't doing anything to defend this tribe and help me keep it about PETA and about helping animals...
Our moderator is gone...and I am on my own here.
instead of yelling at me, why not do something to help to keep this tribe about PETA and helping animals.
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Re: Badger everyone! douchebag of the year!
Thu, October 2, 2008 - 10:29 AMIn this thread alone, Antoine has twice as many posts as any other contributor. And in those posts, he is insulting, yelling, and uses terrible avoidance tactics in order to avoid answering any questions.
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Re: Badger everyone! douchebag of the year!
Thu, October 2, 2008 - 3:15 PMThat is becaus I do it in real time antonie, if I has something pertinant to share I wouold, key word, pertinant. -
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Re: Could the trolls please leave
Thu, October 2, 2008 - 3:52 PMMickey you are slow so I will try to be clear:
Tribes are set-up with certain topics...you joined a PETA tribe to tell its members NOT to support PETA, that is BY DEFINITION trolling.
Did you also join the greenpeace tribe to tell people to leave greenpeace? did you join the young republicans tribe to recruit fro the democratic party? and if you had do you think that it would take very long for members of that tribe to tell you to fuck off? or even for an active moderator to simply remove you and your posts?
Ts tribe has no active moderator and apparently very inactive members and you both are USING this to bully me and spread anti-peta hatred. Also tribe is going through some problems so many people are having difficulty logging on, which makes this not very active tribe even LESS active.
The bottom line is this:
I am an animal rights activist and have been a member of this tribe and of PETA for years. It is not a surprise why I am here. I have decided not to tolerate your and Badger's bullshit and am attempting to fight back...and because I am fighting back, defending the tribe of a group that I belong to, I am accused of censorship?
But you and Badger, both of you are obviously meat-eaters, obviously NOT animal rights activists, and obviously against PETA. You have seen an opportunity to "entertain" yourselves by attacking PETA on a PETA tribe and you are free to do it.
assholes like you guys are the reason why our society NEEDS obvious laws, (you know like against murder and rape- I call them obvious, because any decent human being wouldn't need a law against those things to know that they are wrong and to not do it)
If society collapsed tomorrow and there were no more laws, I would still never rape, steal or murder, but there are those in society who if there were no more laws, would just do it for kicks, because why not?
and those are YOU two!
Of course on a much smaller scale, but you need to have something seriously wrong with you to NOT know that to join a tribe that you 100% disagree with is WRONG. You need to be severely morally deficient to see nothing indecent about joining a PETA tribe for the sole purpose of posting stuff AGAINST PETA.
you are here, not because you care in ANY WAY about PETA or animal rights, but JUST BECAUSE you knwo you can get away with attacking me and this tribe and no one will do anythign about it. you are cowards and INTRUDERS!
so you may not agree with my methods Mickey, but it is obvious why I am here in this tribe. but you?
is it ego? is it because you won't admit that you're wrong?...now I am not saying that you are wrong about PETA...I obviously believe that you are, but that is beside the point... even if you were right about PETA is THIS tribe really the place to bash PETA???
i mean if you have even a shred of human decency left, wouldn't you realize that to join a tribe ONLY to destroy it, is wrong??
and if you had such a small shred of decency, woudln't you then remove all your threads from said tribe and just leave and go spend your time in more positive pursuits instead?
why not become a member of a tribe for one of your hobbies, or asomethign that you actually LIKE?
I LIKE PETA and I believe in animal rights and veganism, that's why I am here.
You call me on being aggressive in my DEFENSE of this tribe...but my reason for being here is not in question.
It's not like I joined the asshole meat-eaters tribe in order to defend PETA, YOU ARE THE AGGRESSORS.
to then turn around and say that you don't agree with the methods I use to DEFEND myself is disingenuous.
It would be like the house invader complaining that the home owner swore at him.
YOU ARE THE INVADER MICKEY!
your friend Badger is a thug!
I don't understand what would cause someone to get up in the morning and decide: today i'm gonna go online join a group that I hate and where everyone hates me in order to post things AGAINST that group JUST to piss people off.
it's sad. And it is horrible that no other member of this tribe is willing to stand up to defend PETA and this tribe. -
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Re: Could the trolls please leave
Thu, October 2, 2008 - 4:04 PMI can give a real tribe example (i'm sure this friends of mine won't mind)
A few years ago I was having a discussion on a vegetarian tribe about animal rights and in the making of my point I made a disparaging comment about S&M.
a friend who also believed in animal rights sent me a PM in an attempt to open my mind to S&M. She and her husband were both friends of mine and into S&M...and so she educated me a bit on this. I then had to admit that I do in fact have an active prejudice against S&M.
She helped me to change my views with regards to judgment, but it is still not my cup of tea.
And here is my point. This happened in a tribe unrelated to S&M and in PMs. I apologized to her and added an apology in the thread. But although I am now more tolerant and much more understanding of S&M, I still don't agree with it for myself and do not live that lifestyle.
Therefore I don't belong to any S&M tribes. If I did I would be a TROLL.
The point is not whether I am right or she is right. The point is not even about how I may have some interesting and valid arguments against S&M.
the issue is that if I were to join an S&M tribe knowing my obvious bias against it, I would be joining ONLY for negative reasons.
Both of you (Badger and Mickey) are against PETA and have a prejudice against animal rights, therefore your reasons for joining this tribe are only negative.
therefore you are trolls.
PLEASE remove all your threads and leave this tribe. -
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Re: Could the trolls please leave
Thu, October 2, 2008 - 11:04 PMAsstoine, did you have something to say or were you just breaking bad with your typing skills?
In any case you seriously don't believe I'm reading what you have to say - do you?
I mean, seriously? -
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Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 11:42 AMwhat I was saying in a nutshell Badger is that you are a horrible person.
to come on this PETA tribe for the sole reason of bashing PETA.
it goes against what tribe stands for.
it's fine to have opinions, but if you 100% disagree with a tribe and your only reason to join is to piss others off, that is pretty pathetic.
I don't understand why one would join a tribe JUST to post mean and hateful things against that tribe...it's just negative. and pretty sad that you find that kind of thing entertaining.
and I was also saying that if you had any decency at all, you would remove all your threads and leave this tribe...and instead join a tribe that you agree with and that you like to make the tribe experience a positive one instead. -
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Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 11:45 AMAnd by admitting that you don't even read my posts, you prove my point even further that you are an aggressor, a destructive person...like a rapist you are deaf to the pleas of your victim because you are only here to hurt and get your kicks from it.
A person who was actually in this tribe for legitimate reasons would WANT to read other's posts and to learn from others here...and make relationships in this tribe.
but you are only here to spread hatred. -
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Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 12:34 PMAsstoine, you confuse hatred for unbridled contempt.
There's a difference; not that I'd expect you to be able to differentiate from the two.
You yip like a nervous little lap dog. Territorial in the small domain you inhabit and angry at any perceived threat - real or imagined - that challenges the ridiculously caustic little organization that you've ingratiated yourself into.
Cartoonish and pitiable, I think that at this point you're more a parody of an 'activist' than anything actually resembling one. All you need at this point to complete the transition is a little red ball place on the end of your nose.
BTW, thinking of you....
tinyurl.com/526vev
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Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 12:47 PMYou took the words right out of my mouth. I would certainly put him in the "living caricature" category. -
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Unsu...
Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 2:34 PMWOW
Badger, are you officially my stalker?
you actually took the time to make that FOR me???
dude...you need to find another hobby.
It's interesting that you and your "friend" Mickey join this tribe that you don't agree with at all, just to harass me and *I* am the one who is a caricature.
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really?
regardless of all your bullshit hatred, the reality is that THIS is a PETA tribe FOR PETA members, calling me a caricature is not gonna make you any less objectionable for making a point to join a tribe ONLY to harass its members.
you are a vile disgusting troll and I would much rather be a clown than that. -
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Unsu...
Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 2:36 PMand the point is if this organization is ridiculous and caustic WHY DID YOU JOIN ITS TRIBE?
who is ridiculous? the person who is here because he actually BELONGS to PETA
or the person (sic) who is the member of a PETA tribe when he hates the org?
dude why would you join a tribe that you hate? just to insult and torment its members?
you idiots can bully and push me around all you want. YOU ARE WRONG and I am NOT backing down -
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Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 9:37 PMAs an animal rights supporter, I am doing a social service by helping people realize their dollars and efforts can have a greater effect with organizations other than peta.
Besides, if you're trying to be an ambassador, you seem to have a way of making more enemies than friends. -
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Unsu...
Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 9:55 PMI never said that I was an ambassador, I said i was in MY house.
this is not the "come and tell us what you think of PETA tribe" it is a PETA tribe FOR PETA MEMBERS.
you are NOT an animal rights supporter MIckey.
you eat meat and you obviously don't give two shits about animal rights.
and even if you were, this is not an animal rights tribe it is a PETA tribe.
and coming here to do your public service telling people NOT to support PETA is like recruiting for american soldiers in the Taliban, or trying to convert people to christianity inside a mosque.
it's just rude and indecent, not to mention fucking idiotic.
PLUS you did not help anyone on this tribe (or in any other capacity in your entire life I would gather) and definitely you are not helping us poor confused animal activist (who so fuckign desperately need your loser help) because you provided absolutely NO alternatives to PETA.
oh except for anti-bullying programs (which I doubt you know anything about considering that you joined a tribe that you disagree with just to harass (or bully) its members) and habitat for humanity...okay...how the fuck does that reduce the amounts of animals killed for YOUR FAT MOUTH every day? -
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Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 9:57 PMThis is your house? Now you are making me laugh. -
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Unsu...
Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 10:04 PMOKAY MICKEY.
STOP!!!!! STOP!!!! OKAY JUST STOP!
yes. I am a PETA member and a supporter of PETA.
I am not saying that it is exclusively my house, but I BELONG here.
YOU DO NOT.
WAKE UP and look at yourself.
why are you still posting here? I am the only one responding to you. Why are you here?
are you getting your kicks?
This tribe is for PETA members and you came here to tell us NOT to be PETA members.
There is NO WAY that you are that obtuse.
could you PLEASE just go away. I never did anything to you before you decide to come here in MY HOUSE , in my tribe that I have belonged to for years a tribe for those who believe and support PETA.
you are just mean and wrong. You are a bully.
Wouldn;t you rather go on tribes that you like and have conversations that are positive and good?
you know SHARE with others, recipes, ideas, whatever...
instead of trolling here.
what kind of satisfaction do you get in just coming here to hate on PETA?
what do you need to go away?
do you want me to tell you that you win? you win.
do you want me to tell you that I am a caricature and you are wonderful. Okay you are soooo great.
can you PLEASE go away now?
PLEASE.
just remove all your thread and remove yourself from this tribe...go join a tribe that you like, instead of annoying me here in atribe that I genuinely believe in. -
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Unsu...
Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 10:07 PMI mean GOD.
have a fucking conscience!
you are NOT A MEMBER of this tribe for the RIGHT reasons...and you HAVE to see that.
you bring up public service...what "service" is there in joining a tribe that you 100% disagree with?
what service is there in joining a tribe FOR supporters of PETA to tell them to stop supporting PETA.
and then to stick around just to laugh and mock me...is that in any way positive???
at all.
what kind of horrible person are you that you don't see that this is NOT what tribe is supposed to be. -
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Unsu...
Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 10:15 PMdiscussion and debate is one thing...what you are doing is hate.
its' going into a church to tell them that god doesn't exist, even if you are RIGHT no decent human being would do that...
so even if you are right about PETA, so fine and if you want to voice that opinion on, for example, an animal rights tribe, or a tribe for those who are wondering hwo to spend their money to help animals. okay...but this is a tribe for those who SUPPORT PETA.
and you are only here to say one thing (which you have said ad nauseum already) that animal rights supporters should not support PETA...and that is ALL you have to say...but this is a PETA tribe.
so PLEASE just leave.
remove all your threads and remove yourself from this tribe and go to a tribe that you actually LIKE for a change.
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Unsu...
Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 10:19 PMor ask yourself...what would you want from your "public service" educating us about how PETA is a waste of time and money?
BEST CASE SCENARIO: everyone here agrees with you and says : "you know what? Mickey is right, we should not support or be members of PETA"...and then ALL the members leave this tribe and join YOUR tribe on how to help animals by building homes for the homeless and teaching children about the evils of bullying
and then this tribe is closed because it has no more members.
so your BEST case is to destroy this tribe...you are a DESTRUCTIVE TROLL.
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Unsu...
Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 10:29 PMOkay so that is fine I am what PETA wants in a PETA tribe!!!!!!
HELLLO???? McFLY????
are you REALLY that fucking stupid???
when you say this: " you appear to be every bit the radical extremist peta wants you to be."
THAT IS A COMPLIMENT TO ME!!!! do you get it????
it is not to you because you don't like PETA so GO AWAY!!!!
being radical and extremist is a GOOD thing to me AND to PETA but not to you.
you don't like or even remotely agree with peta but THIS IS A TRIBE FOR PETA MEMBERS
PLEASE
go away!!!!
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Unsu...
Re: Could the trolls please leave
Fri, October 3, 2008 - 10:33 PMand how the FUCK am I judgmental Mickey?
You said it yourself (OVER and OVER, and OVER again) that you are ONLY here to tell us NOT to support PETA.
so I said FINE, if everyone in this tribe agreed with you and decided NOT to support PETA (which is what you WANT)
then this tribe would have no more members...so it would DESTROY the tribe.
that is not ME judging YOU Mickey...that is based on what YOU posted HERE.
so you ARE a destructive troll since your only reason for being here is to destroy this tribe.
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